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Sat, 30 December 2006
This podcast is about the issue of abortion in the anarchist revolution.
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Note: I do not support illegalisation of abortion, so please don't tell me that this is what i was saying.
Thanks for your comments, Michael, I would like to ask where have i \"mock[ed] [your] religious beliefs or assume[d] that the occasional lunatic is representative of [your] entire group\". I am very interested in Tolstoyan anarchism for example. And am trying to create links with that community. And if i do sometimes come across as generalising too much then do state where it is, because without that i will not be able to grow. As for the contraception, without it you are removing the women\'s right to control their own bodies. Women are *not* baby making machines and i refuse to see them as such. In the anarchist society the whole society will have to ensure that women have the way to stop the unwanted pregnancy, because if that will not happen... well, then women will have abortions, that\'s just the fact of life. You cannot demand for somebody to give up control of their body for the period of around 9 months when that is not the person\'s choice. As such the contraception is a must in any society that wants to eliminate abortion, and not simply punish people who have it performed. I hope i\'ve cleared some stuff up, if it wasn\'t clear before. I will definitely do another podcast on the issue. If you want you can send me an audio file and i will include it in the show.
Hello, Like yourself, I also have found it difficult to take a hard, public stance on the issue of abortion. In so many ways, I am quite disconnected from the issue, in that I am a male boylover...Hence, I could never need (or have) an abortion myself, and the possibility that anyone else will need an abortion, because of my actions, is nearly non-existant, as well. So, I\'ve mainly stayed out of this issue, since I have plenty of other issues, which do effect me, to deal with...and, I don\'t like dealing with the mess, that fighting over abortion brings with it. Regardless, when I was under the control of the christian church, by default, I considered abortion to be nothing but evil. My stance has softened, as my understanding of abortion, and the varied circumstances surrounding it, have been made clearer to me. I have never been comfortable with outright embracing it, however. There are to many questions...and I just do not know the answers...I am not qualified, to make this judgement. I can hypothesis, that the first month or two of pregnency, only produces a small mass of cells, and there has been no time, for the true, human essence to develope. I could also believe, that once a body has been formed, there is no way of qualifying the presumption, that human essence is not already present. ...but really, nobody knows where human essence begins. Legally speaking, it is very clear...anything not born, is not recognised as being a being...Nature is not so clear about this, however. This is a question, which as of yet, remains un-answered. I would like to say also, that I appreciate your observation about many atheists. In my opinion, you hit that one right on the head. As an atheist, yes, I do believe we only have this one shot, and that I (we all) had better make this life count for all that it can. For some reason, many people do not realize, or appreciate, the true depth and weight of this. A lot of people scoff at it...but, in fact, this is foundational in common atheist ethics. It does seem unthinkable, to deny anyone, of their one chance to exist...You are the first person, to really make me think of this issue, from quite that angle, by the way. ...but again, the question arises...\"When does a person begin to exist?\"...If the early mass of cells are not really a person, then has \"someone\" been denied anything at all? I don\'t know the answers to these questions, and until I do, I am really not ready to take a hard stance, or to fight over the issue with anybody. Oh...and by the way...I really have enjoyed your podcast, quite a bit.
Hi, Steve, Thanks for your comment. I really enjoy knowing what people thought about my podcasts, and the fact that they actually thought about them at all is a great positive reinforcement for me to do more. I am not an atheist, however, i use to be one, and i still have many of the atheistic ethics and philosophy in my world view. Currently i am closest to an idea of Buddhism, i believe in reincarnation and in karmacal forces. As such the question of where the \\\'essence\\\' begins doesn\\\'t enter my mind, for me it\\\'s more of a question of the personal attachment to the particular body. I do, though, understand and respect the fact that other people view the world differently to me, and therefore i believe that it was important for me to cover the issue from as many angles as possible. Probably the only angle that i really don\\\'t care about is legal one, because i am working towards an anarchist society, a world where there is no externally imposed legislation nor hierarchy. Also i believe that the legal aspect shouldn\\\'t even enter into the question of ethics, as law never really represented ethical behaviour, but rather the will of the ruling classes. Hope you will continue listening to my podcasts, and comment on them when you have something to say.
I was glad to find your podcast. This is a subject of great interest to me. I\'ve been involved in pro-life activism for many years and lately am finding myself developing in the direction of anarchism. Naturally, I see no conflict between the two but it seems a strange combination to both my pro-life friends and my anarchist friends. I have to correct Steve when he hypothesized about the first two months of pregnancy producing only a small mass of cells. Steve, if you take the time to do a little research on this, I think you\'ll find yourself having to change your mind. The embryo\'s heart starts beating at 3 weeks. Brain waves can be detected at around 8 weeks, if I recall correctly. Those are the two medically accepted signs of life. It has nothing to do with \"essence\" or soul, which could never be scientifically verifiable. Do check it out and continue thinking about it. Volodya, I completely agree with you about the facts in this issue not being dependent on any religious views. I happen to be a Catholic convert, myself, but I considered abortion to be wrong even when I was an atheist. Becoming a Catholic did not change my views about the facts, but it did change my understanding of my duties in the face of injustice. That\'s what got me involved in activism. I have to say, though, that your horror of \"the Religious Right\" smacks of bigotry and ignorance. You won\'t be able to have an impact in the pro-life movement until you move beyond such prejudices. Most social justice movements -- from abolitionism to women\'s suffrage to the pro-life movement -- have been dominated by religious people. As an anarchist who opposes all oppression, you should strive to emulate our determination, not mock our religious beliefs or assume that the occasional lunatic is representative of our entire group. You seemed to indicate support for abortion in the case of rape, and you definitely call for contraception. As with Steve, I would urge you to study the relevant facts. There are many studies on abortion following rape and abortion following contraception. You\'re operating on some common assumptions, but the actual facts are surprising and would be unsettling to your current views. Also, I wonder who will pay for all that free contraception in your anarchistic society? One interesting thing to ponder is that an anarchistic society would do away with many laws that make pro-life activism difficult and risky today. In the US, there are draconian laws with incredibly severe penalties that restrict free speech rights on the abortion issue. These laws make it much more difficult to put pressure on abortionists and provide assistance to mothers. If similar laws had been passed against the civil rights movement, Dr. King would have spent most of the 60s in a federal prison, safely neutralized. Anyway, a fine podcast. I know you\'ll continue thinking this over, as will I, and I hope you\'ll write or podcast more on this subject in the future.